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  2. I don’t see any disaster at all. There is something wrong between Simon Kissel and some TeamB members, that is all. The rest is a storm in a teacup.

  3. Serg :
    I don’t see any disaster at all. There is something wrong between Simon Kissel and some TeamB members, that is all. The rest is a storm in a teacup.

    Its not only between the parties concerned now as you can see in the thread I quoted. People have got caught in crossfire and I dont think the tone and attitude of some of responses from Company Staff in particular helps matters.

    I wouldn’t go so far as to call it a disaster yet but they seem to be working hard to escalate it into one.

  4. @Serg,

    Agreed. Not a disaster, but it isn’t a disagreement between one person and TeamB. Borland felt strongly enough about this person’s actions (in spite of continuous and repeated warnings) that they banned him for life. Embarcadero (and presumably TeamB) are just continuing to enforce this ban.

  5. I will simply restate that in my opinion it clearly isnt just a disagreement between one person and the Moderators ( Whoever they are in practice ) any more with other people getting caught in cross fire.

  6. @FromEurope:

    I think your link to John Frazier’s post explains this so-called “cross fire” pretty well.

  7. I suggest to people they read thread quoted up top as a whole. There is a plain case IMO on there of someone caught in the cross fire.

  8. Companies and corporations do this kind of thing all the time, usually for even lesser reasons. People become an unperson and disappear as if they never existed, just like in Orwell’s 1984, one of the best documentaries of the corporate world ever made.

  9. @John
    Your Post on that thread was excellent. Hopefully a few of the people that IMO blindly defend everything they do may pause for thought if they happen across it. I also found the reply you got quite interesting 😉

  10. No one in this world cares about comments in this non-tech thing:-).

    John Jacobson pointed it … I really find it ok … I never had the impression that Borland/Codegear/Embarcadero sees us as more as license holders and this is a PR/disaster and one smells this between the lines. I would say they really have a communication problem.

  11. Whoever believed that Delphi problems were over without Borland should understand how wrong he was. Problems were never only in upper management, there were always issues in middle management as well, and the “pathetic” way they handled both layoff of Hodges and Kissel’s message (and the Soviet-like forum policies) show it very well. I wonder why Embarcadero retains some useless people around Delphi instead of “letting them go” too. With the savings they could hire a developer or two and have that damned 64 bit version earlier.

  12. Managers in the upper & middle layer are very expensive. They are there because they have always been there. Over years and decades. Fire them is always a good thing. Hire some pasionate R&D people instead!

  13. Just looked at that thread again I quoted up top and found Embarcedero Staff (Plus the usual supporters) still responding to people in a tone and attitude that in my personal opinion is just making matters worse. I was expecting the thread to be deleted by now. But it seems to me ‘Do as I say not as I do myself’ is the order of the day 🙂

    I now have to agree with the posts by LDS and Michael Timms above as a result.

  15. Oh my, I always wanted to be more than a License Holder 🙁

    I strongly suggest that this debacle is sorted pronto in Delphi community’s interest.

  17. Hmmmmm well they seen to me to be determined to pour fuel on fire it seems to me.

    Someone on the thread discussing the issue
    (https://forums.embarcadero.com/thread.jspa?messageID=260971 in case you didnt see at top and now locked to prevent further comments I notice ) got so annoyed with official responses they firstly asked to be removed from forums and deleted all their posts. Then I assume due to the continuing tone and attitude of subsequent official responses apparently asked how to be removed from EDN completely.
    A more polite and in my opinion customer friendly staff member then urged them not to do this and warned of results of doing it. It then appears sometime not long after this person/s unknown decided to Ban them till 31st July ! Its only obvious as another Forum member asks why the person was banned until 31st as I guess they are in contact somehow privately. Im sure that really helped matters ?!

    To be fair there is a post subsequently say the Ban should never have been done and saying they made sure it was lifted immediately. That all been said had someone not posted there pointing it out publically I wonder would anything have been done about it ? 😉

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